@twann Folks, let us know which "real private messengers" you use daily. I personally use #Nextcloud Talk with my team on a daily basis, but I doubt it can rank as an alternative to #WhatsApp.
@biguenique oh, and I forgot #Briar. It is probably the most secure messenger as it doesn't even need an internet connection to work
@biguenique @twann Nextcloud Talk, Telegram, Signal and eventually SMS as fallback.
My family is still using #Wire, mainly because it's the only #FOSS app I could find with #encryption that wasn't some weird, reinvent the wheel type thing, along with a decent interface my older family members could understand. Sadly, Wire appears to have turned evil, so now I'm prepping to make the jump to #Matrix on #Yunohost 3.4, with a self hosted #Synapse and no external identity server. I'm keeping an eye on #XMPP via #Snikket, too.
@Blort @twann @biguenique #Matrix has a #Cloudflare website which is a big red flag. It immediately calls into the question the competency and ethics of that project. #Snikket looks more on the ball.
@koherecoWatchdog @Blort @twann @biguenique
#i2pd #i2p
https://i2pd.readthedocs.io/ behind #cloudflare as well.😶
@Br0m3x
Keep in mind, I2PD isn't I2P though.
@dsfgs @koherecoWatchdog @Blort @twann @biguenique
Yes, I know. It is a client.
@Br0m3x
Yes, and for the sake of completeness, a person using I2PD (as opposed to I2P) lacks the ability to host their own service/site, lacks the native torrenting client and other nice things.
@icedquinn
Maybe we had the wrong idea when we but out of the box it doesn't do things that I2P does.
If we are mistaken though that's cool. Its been some time since we brushed up on i2pd to be frank.
@twann @koherecoWatchdog @biguenique @Blort @Br0m3x
@dsfgs @koherecoWatchdog @Blort @twann @biguenique no, no... It's a fully operative i2p router
@Blort @biguenique @twann
Look at xmpp + #prosody
@biguenique signal, matrix, XMPP, session